Comments on: CherryPy v. Pylons http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/ Ken Kinder's personal website Wed, 02 Jun 2010 07:46:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ken Kinder http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-597 Ken Kinder Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:54:41 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-597 Robert, another issue I found: http://tools.cherrypy.org/wiki/XmlRpcIntrospection If you run this example, and use the xmlrpclib test it shows at the bottom, you actually get 404 errors from CherryPy. I created a ticket: http://cherrypy.org/ticket/967 Robert, another issue I found:

http://tools.cherrypy.org/wiki/XmlRpcIntrospection

If you run this example, and use the xmlrpclib test it shows at the bottom, you actually get 404 errors from CherryPy. I created a ticket:

http://cherrypy.org/ticket/967

]]> By: Ken Kinder http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-595 Ken Kinder Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:41:44 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-595 Yes, actually, that is a vast improvement. Especially the headings under the Request Cycle. Thanks! Yes, actually, that is a vast improvement. Especially the headings under the Request Cycle. Thanks!

]]> By: Robert Brewer http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-592 Robert Brewer Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:05:02 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-592 Is http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/TableOfContents better now? There's obviously a bunch of re-org we could do with the individual pages, but at least there are full-phrase headings now. Is http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/TableOfContents better now? There’s obviously a bunch of re-org we could do with the individual pages, but at least there are full-phrase headings now.

]]> By: Ken Kinder http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-591 Ken Kinder Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:05:05 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-591 Hey Robert, thanks for reading and replying to my blog post. What strikes me is that the Table of Contents is built with an existing knowledge of how CherryPy works: http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/TableOfContents For example, it makes sense that url mapping is part of the request cycle, but I have to know ahead of time that CherryPy calls the objects that map URLs to controllers, "dispatchers." And shouldn't ReturnVsYield be in the "request cycle" too? I'd go for more of a generally worded, more structured table of contents with headings like Basic Development that would cover Controllers, cookies, and the like. Then another section for extending CherryPy. Then maybe another on deploying, under which BehindApache, WSGI, etc would be placed. Also, I would use full phrases as headings, not just wiki stubs. Take a look at the Django or Pylons documentation and it's broken up by version and purpose. Not that CherryPy'w wiki approach doesn't have advantages, but it's harder to navigate. Hey Robert, thanks for reading and replying to my blog post. What strikes me is that the Table of Contents is built with an existing knowledge of how CherryPy works:

http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/TableOfContents

For example, it makes sense that url mapping is part of the request cycle, but I have to know ahead of time that CherryPy calls the objects that map URLs to controllers, “dispatchers.” And shouldn’t ReturnVsYield be in the “request cycle” too?

I’d go for more of a generally worded, more structured table of contents with headings like Basic Development that would cover Controllers, cookies, and the like. Then another section for extending CherryPy. Then maybe another on deploying, under which BehindApache, WSGI, etc would be placed.

Also, I would use full phrases as headings, not just wiki stubs. Take a look at the Django or Pylons documentation and it’s broken up by version and purpose. Not that CherryPy’w wiki approach doesn’t have advantages, but it’s harder to navigate.

]]> By: Ken Kinder http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Ken Kinder Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:54:06 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-590 Very nice. I'll give it a try. Thanks! Very nice. I’ll give it a try. Thanks!

]]> By: Sylvain Hellegouarch http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-589 Sylvain Hellegouarch Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:03:27 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-589 Here is an example: http://tools.cherrypy.org/wiki/PasteEvalException Here is an example:
http://tools.cherrypy.org/wiki/PasteEvalException

]]> By: Sylvain Hellegouarch http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-588 Sylvain Hellegouarch Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:52:15 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-588 If I'm not mistaken you can have the same error handling feature from CherryPy by using the WSGI paste middleware for it If I’m not mistaken you can have the same error handling feature from CherryPy by using the WSGI paste middleware for it

]]> By: Robert Brewer http://kenkinder.com/2009/10/18/cherrypy-v-pylons/comment-page-1/#comment-587 Robert Brewer Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:33:28 +0000 http://kenkinder.com/?p=194#comment-587 Thanks, Ken. Always good to get feedback so we can improve. Question for ya: you mentioned that the CherryPy RoutesDispatcher documentation is sort of in the wrong place. What would be the right place in your estimation? Thanks, Ken. Always good to get feedback so we can improve.

Question for ya: you mentioned that the CherryPy RoutesDispatcher documentation is sort of in the wrong place. What would be the right place in your estimation?

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